In my second interview of real people that are making a difference, questioning the status quo and trying to make a positive impact upon the environment, I had the opportunity to interview Tappening.com co-founders, Eric Yaverbaum and Mark DiMassimo.After watching the groundbreaking film, Garbage: The Revolution Starts at Home!, a film that points out, in simple, everyday terms the amount of waste an average family creates, mostly spurned by our hyperactive consumer culture, Yaverbaum and DiMassimo decided to do somehting about it. Their cause, get people to significantly reduce, or eliminate, the consumption of one-use bottled water. One of the most inefficient products on a grocery store shelf, Yaverbaum and DiMassimo are taking on the bottled water industry and calling them on their decades long run on pushing overpriced water that is extremely wasteful, with plastic water bottles clogging waterways and littering roads across the world. All done for the sake of convenience, until recently unquestioned by the average consumer, until now.
Hence Tappening.com poses the question... is it time to rethink bottled water?
Eric and Mark, Welcome to Bamboo Geek.
1. What prompted you to start Tappening? And what do you hope to achieve long-term from Tappening?
Eric and Mark, Welcome to Bamboo Geek.
1. What prompted you to start Tappening? And what do you hope to achieve long-term from Tappening?
Mark and I were very angry about what we viewed as the extreme and unnecessary waste of resources and the resultant pollution of the Earth, caused by the bottled water industry. As marketing professionals, we viewed the multi-billion dollar campaign that convinced people that they ‘needed’ bottled water as being one of the most successful advertising coups ever perpetrated in this country.Also – my daughter, Cole, kept asking me what I can do—as a public relations professional-- to benefit the environment. Eventually, the idea for the Tappening campaign crystallized for us. Our long-term goal for Tappening is to continue to educate the public about the benefits of using tap water whenever possible, and to discourage the unnecessary purchase and use of bottled water.
2. I know that the documentary Garbage: The Revolution Starts at Home was an inspiration for both of you. I have watched it myself. What was the biggest thing that you took away from that film?
One strong message we got from the film is that we can’t wait for slow-moving politicians and self-serving corporations to implement much-needed changes. The film motivated us to take the reins and try to bring about some change on our own.
3. I read recently that the bottled water industry is facing the slowest sales its had in almost 20 years. Some attribute this to the economy, others to a growing environmental consciousness creating a more savvy consumer that is thinking twice about bottled water use. What do you think is happening and do you forsee this as a lasting change in behavior or a cyclical phenomenon?
We believe it’s a combination of both factors. With the bottled vs. tap water debate getting so much attention recently, coupled with the weak economy – it’s a kind of perfect storm; a lot of people are deciding that bottled water is an unnecessary—as well as harm-causing-- expense.
We believe that this is growing development, as more and more people become educated about the facts.
4. Great job on the Message in a Bottle Campaign. Any response from the folks at CocaCola?
Thank you. We know that Coca-Cola has been closely following the Tappening progression. Their initial response was to tout their recycling programs which truly are terrific. Truly - and we applaud them for it. But that’s not the answer. It’s at the tail end of the problem.
Thank you. We know that Coca-Cola has been closely following the Tappening progression. Their initial response was to tout their recycling programs which truly are terrific. Truly - and we applaud them for it. But that’s not the answer. It’s at the tail end of the problem.
5. Its hard these days not to feel like a very small voice in a big corporate world. You are taking on some big companies like CocaCola to effect real change and better the environment. What words of inspiration would you give someone trying to better the environment these days? What do you see as the biggest obstacle to making substantive change to create a more sustainable planet?
There’s no doubt that corporate forces are omnipotent in today’s world. It’s been very gratifying for us to be able to use our respective long-honed marketing skills—in public relations and advertising/branding – to make an impact felt by the Goliaths in our culture. In terms of inspiration, we always say that that if you’re passionate about something – and can translate your passion into action – you can make a viable impact. Yes, the biggest obstacle to making substantive change, in our view, is the immense economic and political power yielded by the mammoth corporations. But, again, it’s very gratifying to have seen that the little guys can sometimes make a difference.
6. I recently wrote about how recycling is sometimes used by companies and consumers as an excuse to buy more things - the "hey, it can be recycled" justification. Although, I do think recycling is good, it really should be the lesser used in the three "R's" (Reduce, Reuse, Recycle) cycle. This certainly applies to the bottled water industry. Anyone who knows about the three "R's" knows that reducing is the best solution for the environment. Tappening encourages people to use reusable water bottles and tap water - thereby reducing - by no longer purchasing bottled water. Less fuel wasted in transportation, less energy used to recycle, less litter, and less squandered oil to make the plastic bottles. The concept of "reducing" runs deeply against our "consumer culture." Have you found a lot of resistance to the concept of just "reducing" by not buying bottled water from the average person?
We believe that once armed with the facts about the wastefulness and non-necessity of bottled water in most instances, and the stresses we’ve been putting on our environment, in general – a lot of average people are coming to realize that it’s imperative to re-evaluate the rampant excesses of our ‘consumer culture.’ We believe the greatest value of campaigns like Tappening is to encourage people to really think about these issues and, hence, help to bring about a shift in consciousness.
6. I recently wrote about how recycling is sometimes used by companies and consumers as an excuse to buy more things - the "hey, it can be recycled" justification. Although, I do think recycling is good, it really should be the lesser used in the three "R's" (Reduce, Reuse, Recycle) cycle. This certainly applies to the bottled water industry. Anyone who knows about the three "R's" knows that reducing is the best solution for the environment. Tappening encourages people to use reusable water bottles and tap water - thereby reducing - by no longer purchasing bottled water. Less fuel wasted in transportation, less energy used to recycle, less litter, and less squandered oil to make the plastic bottles. The concept of "reducing" runs deeply against our "consumer culture." Have you found a lot of resistance to the concept of just "reducing" by not buying bottled water from the average person?
We believe that once armed with the facts about the wastefulness and non-necessity of bottled water in most instances, and the stresses we’ve been putting on our environment, in general – a lot of average people are coming to realize that it’s imperative to re-evaluate the rampant excesses of our ‘consumer culture.’ We believe the greatest value of campaigns like Tappening is to encourage people to really think about these issues and, hence, help to bring about a shift in consciousness.
7. The bottled water industry clearly markets their product under the guise of "convenience" for the "on the go society." Has this marketing ploy been hard to counter when asking people to forgo the bottled water and prepare a little more ahead of time by preparing a reusable water bottle? Aren't you really tring to undo millions of dollars and years of marketing (or more bluntly, mass brainwashing) by the bottled water industry trying to get the average consumer to rethink bottled water?
Yes, that’s exactly what we’re trying to do. First, by making it clear to consumers that it’s the many countless millions of dollars in marketing money spent in the past 30 years that persuaded them to believe that they “needed” this product in the first place. In terms of the mobility issue – we’re not saying that bottled water has no valid place ever– just that 80% or 90% of the time, people can quite easily fill a reusable bottle with tap (perhaps using some kind of relatively inexpensive filter system, if they feel a need for it). We think it’s a really small inconvenience or sacrifice for consumers to make, in view of the larger issues.
8. So can you tell us what is next for Tappening?
Tappening has just introduced the Tappening (duffle-type) Bag on the www.tappening.com website. We rethought our original plan and made a decision not to send the almost one million empty water bottles we received with messages inside to Coca Cola, because we realized that by sending a convoy of trucks from the north down to Atlanta – we’d be using an awful lot of fossil fuel for what could be perceived as a publicity stunt. And, Coke could have used this as an opportunity to publicize their recycling program.
Instead, we recycled this massive number of bottles ourselves. Our bags are made of 100% post-consumer recycled materials; yesterday’s discarded bottles and yogurt containers.
We’re also set to announce that all of the reusable bottles sold on our website are 100% BPA-free.
And, most essentially - we’re going to keep working to keep this issue in the forefront of the national consciousness.



8 comments:
The whole thing is a publicity stunt any way. Just read the history of the founders and you'll find they will do anything to promote themselves.
How much of all the money received has gone towards getting rid of bottled water? Or towards helping the environment for that matter?
If you are truley out to help get rid of bottled water how much of the money you have gained from this campaign in terms of percentage has gone directly towards the environment?
These guys are just trying to make a profit, now they are introducing recycled bags, yep something else to make a buck.
Dear Anonymous-
I'm not anonymous!
You can find me anywhere (as you have). If my "history" was not so well documented in the press and online, I'd probably be a pretty lousy pr guy!
I do beg to differ with some of your anonymous opinions though.
I won't and don't do "anything" to promote "myself". I don't have too. I've become a trusted resource of the media for over two decades. When I have something to say and the press is interested, I say it. The internet, google, my own corporate website, five books I have written are all permanently and transparently out there for history to judge me as it may.
We don't want to eliminate bottled water, just cut down on it's consumption. That's not such a terrible crime. While yes we have made money, we have also educated 4 million people and over 250,000 so far have agreed to stop the waste when they can. It's a free world. We just wanted people to make an educated decision.
I hate to apologize for making money for fear that big bad corporate america will think it's not okay to make money while helping to save the planet. We need corporate america engaged and they will only be so if it is profitable. I'd like to encourage that perspective. However, it does bear pointing out that Mark and I have not taken a penny out of this cause. We've poured it all back in to reach larger and larger audiences. No stunt? Just some education with the understanding that everyone needs to decide for themselves.
If we wanted to do a stunt for the sake of publicity, we would have trucked the million bottles down to Atlanta and the press would have had a field day. Instead we decided that was not the environmentally responsible thing to do...so now we have bags made 100% from recycled bottles (and yogurt containers).
While I am sure I may be inviting more anonymous attacks. I just wanted to clear up our perspective. Twenty five years in the press gives you very thick skin. I fully accept there are two sides to every story. My name is proudly on my side.
Eric Yaverbaum
Co-Founder
Tappening.com
PS-If you want to get me directly, always happy to hear from supporters and nay sayers alike at eric@erichopr.com.
Eric I have bought and read your books, read your blogs etc, that being said its way to transparent what your doing now...No different then what you "teach" in your books.
Please dont try to make this out to be anything more than publicity for you and your firm.
If anyone doesnt think im right just read his books, and read his blogs on how to get publicity ..Then tell me im wrong..
Mr. or Ms. Anonymous-
I gather from the most recent response that you're no longer upset that this makes money? Is that ok now?
Your ok with my explanation there?
Assuming it is, we'll move on to this being nothing more than "publicity for me and my firm"? I guess I read your first entry wrong when you seemed more upset about the money part (which of course would also mean it was not just about publicity for me I think)?? I must have miss-interpreted the entry.
So if I'm getting this right, I'm not the bad man who is making money now. I'm the bad man who is just trying to get press for the sake of getting press?
I'll start with a thank you for reading my books and a compliment that you very correctly can see I have used and taught public relations tactics like this before. You are 100% correct. We know how to generate interest. GUILTY.
As for my blog...well...where is it? I tried briefly a while back...but my mom and Michael Moore were the only ones to read it. But that was about health care in this country and not about my pr theories?
And by the way if you are my mom-I'm not real happy you don't just call?
I'm perfectly willing to accept the accusation that I have started an initiative (with a brilliant partner who does great advertising in Mark DiMassimo at DIGO) that makes money, gets a lot of attention, stirs much needed public debate and makes the planet a better place.
I also fully agree with you that I have taught how to do exactly this for over two decades and that I have done it before and will do it again...especially when for a good cause! And you or anyone who is opposed to what we are doing can grab any one of my books to see the "playbook" for what we will do next. Transparent and guilty...with a real name.
In fairness now to you-oh anonymous one, I'm pretty sure I'll let you get in the last word or this could continue the rest of my career.
Getting PR generates money..
Hmmmmmmm......
"I won't and don't do "anything" to promote "myself"."
All I need to say is to anyone reading this read his books you'll see what Im talking about..
Dont care what slant you put on it, in my opinion this campaign is for the furthering of your name.
You state "I hate to apologize for making money"
Well I thought you didnt make any money it all went back into the campaign???
I see it that you are out to make money by getting your name out as much as possible, this keeps your name in the news and attracts customers and thats what your all about.
Come clean will ya...
Signed
Anonymous and loving it... :)
OK, let's talk about the merits and the problems with bottled water. The issue is open for debate.
Anonymous, tell us your position on it, is bottled water a consumer benefit or ? I'd like to hear about your opinion on the matter.
I want to stick to the issue at hand.
Thanks all...
Sean
No I'm opposed to as much as you all are!
But one thing you wont get over is the laziness factor, its way to easy just to grab a bottle and go.
North Americans are way to wasteful and unless something drastic happens that mentality will be difficult to change.
Well maybe one person at a time...
My children know more about water and plastic then most adults. It may take the next gen to sort out this mess we are making...
Yes, that is certainly a challenge. Your right in that it does really boil down to laziness. I watched a documentary last night about coffee cups and how even when coffee shop owners were giving a 25 cent discount for someone to bring in a reusable mug, only less that 1% took advantage of it. Weird and sad, I guess.
Thanks for your perspective.
Cheers!
Sean
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